Ep#99 How To Lead With Confidence | Keely Woolley | Empowering Family Health

Ep#99 How To  Lead With Confidence | Keely Woolley | Empowering Family Health
In this episode we dive into the world of confident leadership and unveil the secrets to avoid burnout that many ambitious females face. Keely Woolley, an Executive Leadership Coach, Trainer & Mentor with over 23 years of global corporate experience, shares her journey from the corporate world to a fulfilling life dedicated to empowering ambitious women.

🚀 In this episode, Keely shares invaluable insights on leading with confidence, achieving success without compromising health, and overcoming the burnout traps that often challenge ambitious females. As a #1 Best Selling Author, Award-Winning Leadership Mentor, Trainer, and Coach, Keely brings a wealth of knowledge to the table.

This empowering conversation will inspire you to live a more fulfilling and successful life, both personally and professionally. Tune in now for tips, strategies, and the motivation you need to thrive!

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

The only way I felt like I could be seen or heard was by trying to prove myself all the time, trying to um I volunteered for everything, I took on loads of activity, I also felt that I needed to act like a man in order to be noticed. My identity I lost as in being able to enhance the emotional intelligence that you should be able to have, you know, that nurturing probe, being able to help others grow and thrive and all those kind of things, which it did, but it also prevented me from being able to be in that stance all of the time, although I was very, very successful. Plus, obviously running the household, looking after my husband, who's like medically retired, looking after my children, travelling all around the you know, Europe and everything like that. I mean, it was constant 90 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

Just a little taster of what is coming up on the show. But first, please do like this video and subscribe to the channel, and also tell your friends and family about this podcast. Please let us know in the comments if you would like to hear any particular topic in relation to sleep or health, then I will create a show especially for you just for asking the question. So let's get on with the show.

SPEAKER_03 1:55

Today on the show, we are going to be talking all about are you down too much? Are you giving too much? Do you forget about yourself? We are for women, we just we we go, go, go, go, and we forget to stop, we forget to care for ourselves, we get forget to fill our hopes up. We're gonna be talking all about that on the show. We're gonna be talking all about that. Females are leaders, we are natural-born leaders in the world. And I think I've had a statistic there recently that I mean 20% of females are leaders in the workplace, um, you know, could be correct in that, but there's very few, and we do have the natural skills and ability to step into that role. Today in the show, we're going to be talking to Peely Wooley about uh executive leadership and just stepping into that role of leadership and how to lead for confidence, how to beat the traps of burnout, and why many ambitious female uh people just uh don't step into that role and how they fall into this trap of burnout. Let me read out Healy's bio before we bring her in. I'm super excited about this conversation. So, Healy is an executive leadership coach, she's a trainer and mentor with over 23 years experience in a global corporate environment as an executive program delivery director director. Healy left the corporate world so that she could live the life she loves the most, serving other ambitious females to achieve even more fulfilling and successful life personally and professionally without compromising their health. Keely is a number one best-selling author and an award-winning leadership mentor, trainer, and coach, international inspirational speaker and professional speaker coach. Keely, come in and say hello. You're very welcome.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

And hello to you too. Thank you for inviting me on the show, Joan. And thank you for such a detailed uh yeah introduction.

SPEAKER_03 4:02

So yeah, no, it's great, it's great. And Keeley, we were talking there just before we pressed record, and uh, we have so many things in common. We met on Elaine Godley's platform, I think it was, many uh many months ago, and I heard you speaking, and I was just so inspired and moved by how you spoke and how you really stood and cheered on the the women of the world, you know. And I said, Gotta gotta speak to Keely and have her on my podcast. So so you're all about uh empowering female leaders. Tell us tell us why you do this, tell us your background, why what how it led to you doing the work that you're doing today.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

Um well, I I as you mentioned, I was in the corporate world for over 23 years and then another two years in the consulting role. And I mean, in fact, I still do some consulting work. Um, but you know, when you're doing consulting uh working in the corporate world, uh as a woman, as you've just alluded to, and the fur interesting, the further you go up the ladder within an organization, um, I think there's more self-doubt that kicks in, particularly when you're in a male-oriented place. So I was in a corporate global company, it was like a FTSE 100. Um, and let's give you an example. Our um general management team was white, male, Oxford, you know, the the typical sort of structure. Even the second tier down, very few women, but even in the level that I was in um within the business, I was in a team of 13 of which I there was one woman, and uh, you know, it was a manufacturing environment, which is not a reason why it should be predominantly, but um it did mean that you know, in the organisation, I mean, even when I started the role, there were two of us, two women in an entire engineering department, and I mean, granted, in the paper mill, it's not the best of environments, so it's not something that women would ordinarily get drawn to, but that said, it was only two women, so I I predominantly worked in that sort of male environment, and the only way I felt like I could be seen or heard was by trying to prove myself all the time, trying to um I volunteered for everything, I took on loads of activity. I also felt that I needed to act like a man in order to be noticed. Um and I, you know, I lost, I didn't lose all of it, but you know, my identity I lost as in, you know, some of the behaviour that you would have as a woman, and the being able to enhance the emotional intelligence that you should be able to have, you know, that nurturing flow, being able to help others grow and thrive and all those kind of things, which it did, but it also prevented me from being able to be in that stance all of the time, being me, my unique self. And over time, I mean, I was very very successful. And although I was very, very successful, I was volunteering more and more and more and more and more, plus obviously running the household, looking after my husband, who's like medically retired, looking after my children, travelling all around the you know, Europe and everything like that. I mean, it was constant 90 miles an hour and never time to stop or slow down. And you know, I got to the point where I was eventually made redundant within the organisation uh of which I actually played a role in. I I was strategically made redundant um for an organisation that I helped to design, and they thought it was a fantastic design, and then recruited someone externally to fill the role that I'd actually designed and they they'd approved of. And at the same time, I had to put my team at risk, which broke my heart because we were like a family, um, which I know sounds a bit extreme, but we did, we picked each other really carefully. You know, the whole team was in part of the recruitment process, it wasn't just me that did it. So doing that was hard. And um, yeah, so I when I did finally get told I was being made redundant, I crashed and burnt, literally crashed and burnt. I shut down mentally and physically. Um, and I was unable to talk to my family, my friends. I wasn't able to go out, I was signed off sick for three months up until I was officially made redundant. Um but the stupid thing is is I thought it was the redundancy, but it wasn't. And I know it doesn't, it sounds it's not stupid, but the thing is is that you immediately think that that's the reason why you crashed a plane, but it wasn't, it was everything else that built up to that time, even stuff as a child, our programmed patterns of behaviour, which are unintentional of our parents, but you know, ultimately our parenting, our schools, everything define who we are and how we believe things.

SPEAKER_03 9:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:18

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SPEAKER_01 10:03

Um, so yeah, so that's where my journey started from, and I realised all of the traits when I on the recovery side of it. I realised all of the things that I was doing wrong, and the traits that I was portraying, and the behaviour, and all of those kind of things, which was killing me inside, literally killing me inside.

SPEAKER_03 10:23

Yeah, I I oh my god, there's so much to unpack and all that. Like you said, you're trying to prove yourself so you didn't feel wordy, you know, and you were trying to be somebody else. You said you're trying to act like a man, like like act like how they were, because they were getting seen on her. So you were trying to be like them, and in doing that, you were you were pretending, you were pretending to be something else, you were uh ignoring who you really were, and that's where our strength is. When we stand inside of who we are and feel worthy of that and whole and complete, that whole and complete, uh, I use that term quite an awful lot on all levels, you know, because when we're when we're trying to pretend to be, it can be exhausting because you consciously have to, you know, make an effort. It's it's not a natural process when you're trying to pretend. Um, and obviously, if you're trying to pretend, then you're not happy with who you are, you're not accepting who you are. So there's something in that that's not quite right as well, it's not quite fulfilling. Um, and then you said when you were retired, eventually, it wasn't the retirement part, it was it was all the effort and the um you know, all the pretending and trying to be sane and trying to prove yourself, it was a lot of I could really hear that in what you were saying, and then the burnout came from so obviously you'd a lot of adrenaline and all that kind of and I often hear that uh uh Keely that you know when we're um on the go and we're working hard, and all of a sudden when we go on a on vacation, we go on the holidays, people crash. This is where they seem to crash. And it's because the adrenaline is subsiding, and now you know the body is trying to catch up. And but I see it all the time, Keely. It's it's it's and then you mentioned about the programming and bless our parents, they tried their best, but they inherited from they inherited that from their parents and all the programming. So Keely, there's so many places I could go with this, and like you're right, with the women, we do have that natural emotional intelligence of caring and nurturing, and we're wearing all the the hats and we're told that we're great multitaskers, but multitasking is can be exhausting as well, and part of burnout. So tell us just to move on from there, Keely, where do you find or where do you see the most common places, the common things that causes this burnout, the the the traps, if you like, the traps that people are are are finding themselves in that's leading to this burnout? What were the common things that you see?

SPEAKER_01 12:44

Um Well, I I mean as I've already mentioned, some of the things is that lack of self-belief and self-doubt and self-confidence that we're whispering in into our ears. And in fact, I've been writing a post this morning which was relating to my husband, um, which and I don't know if you've ever read the book, um, and it's a game changer for me. Um, I should be promoting my own actually, but this one is Shad Helmstester and it's what to say when you talk to yourself. Oh. It is brilliant, absolute game changer. And you know, it's it's this thing about you know your posit your negative self-talk, you're constantly saying to yourself, um, rather than the the positive self-talk. And the problem is that, you know, one of the things that I talk about in my book is that level of acceptance, because ultimately external factors happen to us. There's nothing we can do about external factors, you know, COVID, the war happens, you know, uh energy prices, you know, uh organization transformations, it doesn't matter what it is, things happen externally, you had no control of the only thing that you have control of is how you either react or respond to the situation. If you react, you've lost control of it, and you're not managing it and showing it uh showing up in a way that represents you as the true leader that you are and would be in normal circumstances. The problem is that you know, when we react in that way, we then shoot from the hip, we start um the self-doubt comes in, we start challenging ourselves, saying that we're a failure, we're useless, when actually those situations weren't our fault. Um, and yet when we respond to a situation and we can do that by taking a step back and thinking logically about an approach, then we can then try to manage it in a much better way, which is when we show up so much better, so much controlled, we can manage conflict, we can be vulnerable, you know, that confidence shines through. But all the while those limiting beliefs are whispering in our ear, then we have to start proving ourselves, then the imposter starts kicking in, you know, then the um self-doubt kicks in. We what we we we're not confident to take those calculated risks. So instead, what we're doing is being this busy fool going at a thousand miles an hour and never stopping, keeping ourselves busy. Yeah, keeping us as you say it, distraction. We distract, distract, distract, distract. And when we distract, we're not actually facing some of the challenges and the problems that we've got, which means that we then start burning out.

SPEAKER_03 15:36

So do women experience imposter syndrome more than men, in your opinion.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Right, so there's an important point here is that there's also an argument about whether imposter syndrome actually exists, because the problem is that when you put a name to something like syndrome, it makes it sound like something that can never be fixed. Yeah, okay, brilliant. Um whereas it's really about our belief in ourselves, which then causes us to feel like we're not good enough, or why would I be um promoted into this role? I mean, here's an example. I got promoted all the way through my business. I have never up until my last interview, I'd never had an interview ever within my business. And the which meant that I was promoting these roles because people come and found me. And yet I was still going, Do I deserve to be in this role? When am I going to be found out? You know, who's going to catch me out and all those kind of things? And I think the honest thing is, I think both men and women feel it exactly in the same way. The difference between us and men is that men will take more calculated risks than us because like a job role, something like if there's 55% of it that they can do, they go, sod it, I'll go for it and I'll do it. So they don't have much self-doubt with it. Whereas our women, the perfectionists in us, um, we have to have over 90%, I think it is, of the job role before we'd actually take the risk of going for it. So, which is why I'm saying is the further I think we go up the ladder as women and even men, then the self-doubt comes in. So it's not an imposter, it's the self-doubt that comes. That's a really great distinction, Keely.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

That is a really great distinction, yeah, because we use that term very loosely, don't we? We hear it a lot, um, and it comes back to the beliefs. So then, so then the question is where did the beliefs come come from? So obviously with women, this this has been through history, through history, women have been put down, not put down, they've been um suppressed, maybe is the word. Um, you know, they've been told that uh you know your place is in the home and raising the kids and all that kind of stuff, and you're not that important uh in terms of leadership, and that that's the man's role. And we've we've kind of grown through history and believe in that, and I think this kind of contributes as well to that program that we talk about, and um that we're not good enough or can I really be a leader in this world? Whereas we have a lot of traits, and men have their place, and and women do as well, and we work very well together. And I think for women in particular, I think in the world that we're living in now, Keely, and tell me if if you agree with this, but I I I believe that women have this um you mentioned the word vulnerable vulnerable, um, very compassionate, very um, we've got a lot of empathy. Um, we can really hear and feel people and and connect, and and this is how we connect, and that's how we relate to people, how we how people trust us, and that's that's how people will work with us is trust is a very big factor when it comes to relationships and and being a leader as well. Would you would you agree? Or what would you think?

SPEAKER_01 18:57

Oh, 100%. So if anybody has uh read um the five six dys d function, I can speak even better, five dysfunctions of an organization, which is Patrick Lindsay only. Now what he talks about is that you know that it's great the companies have what I call management skills, you know, accountancy and HR and all those kind of things. But when you talk about the actual emotional intelligence side of it, the the best organizations are the ones that have had actually learned this, and I hate the term soft skills because they're not soft, they're blaming hard. And you know, they talk about you know the the space of trust and vulnerability and being able to work together and being able to give up things for others for the for the greater good, you know, all of those kind of things, you know, and being able to achieve results. So once you've you've achieved all the four steps, then you can achieve the top one, which is the results, which is ultimately what an organization wants. But that space of vulnerability, when you can have an open conversation with your team, a trusting conversation with your team, then it helps them to have the confidence to show up and be vulnerable. And what that's why it's so important to have that balance, you know. Absolutely, you need male energy in a place, not necessarily all men, but male energy, but you also need female energy because the balance between those two helps to accompany to thrive and bring those two together, and they are fantastic. And women as leaders are incredible because they've got those, you know, the the the nurturing side of it, the um the questioning, the vulnerability, but they're logical thinkers, you know, they're practical, you know, where they they get down to do things because we have to be organized as mothers. We're we we get things done. We're known for getting things done. I know many men that have turned around and said, you know, if I want something to get done, I'll have a team of women on because they make it happen, because that's the way they're structured, and they're good leaders at it, and they want to see others thrive. And when you see others thrive, it helps people to shine through. They're not standing at the front going, Yeah, I did this. They're standing at the back saying, They did this, and we did it together, and that's why we've achieved success, you know. Um, and it's I know it's a little bit of a rant, but yeah, no, it's true.

SPEAKER_03 21:28

I get totally related to it, and and and I think the whole point is that we have different skill sets, you know, and and and when we work together, together, we're stronger, and and we have we each have our own gifts to bring to the table, like you know, and it's the same as true, like you know, when we're just uh on our own, like as a solopreneur, or you know, um it's very hard to make it on your own. We need other people to help us as well. And I think women have that gift as well. When it comes to asking for help, you know, it's Not a shameful thing. It's not like, oh, I'm not good enough. I think I think there's a strength in being able to ask for help, and women are better at that than men, would they be?

SPEAKER_01 22:10

Yeah, yeah. I think it's because we used to have that conversation with each other. Um, we we do say, you know, like when not not all everybody, but you know, we tend to have those open conversations. I mean, men more vulnerable. Yeah, rather than having an open conversation, they're talking about the football rug bands, you know, what what uh how many beers they drank on the weekends, you know. And they're not actually getting to the root of it. But when you do start having that conversation with them and teach them that it is okay, it's so powerful, and they learn so much from it. Because at the end of the day, men as well have got female energy as well, and they they they can be really nurturing, supportive, and I mean one of the chaps that used to work on my team. I mean, my team we did pick really it was really, really careful. But Martin was my like my second, I suppose I would say yeah, he I turned to him when I was off or things like that, and he was incredible at it, he absolutely had a gift for it and and empowered the team. And it was such a beautiful thing to see when it does happen, you know. But when you've got someone that's sort of closed all the time, yeah, you're teaching them it's okay to be closed, and then the the the people that work for them around them then fear being able to stand up, being vulnerable, they'd be seen as weak, that you know, that they'll be judged and all those kind of things. And that's what then starts eating people away because again, self-doubt, self-talk, and all those things come into it.

SPEAKER_03 23:39

Yeah, it's perfectious, really, isn't it? That energy, you know, and and they they do say, you know, you are the average advised people that you spend the most time with, and it's true in an organization as well, you know, and it's very influential, you know, and that's why it's great to be around, you know, people that are cheerleading and you know, and that are not afraid, that are very open and that will share as well. And I love group work, you know, because when people share, um and and it takes something to share, to share, but it helps other people because other people can see themselves in that as well. So I think it's really important. I think it's a really important thing. So not only are you getting help from other people, but you're also you are helping other people as well by sharing your vulnerabilities, and that's that's what this is all about. And it makes us all human. It's like, oh god, she has that problem too, or he has that problem too. Oh God, you know, like I'm not on my own because loneliness. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

That loneliness. Yeah, and I mean the interesting thing is is I did um my first five-day challenge I did um uh uh early last year. Um, two of the ladies that was on my call, since we're getting darker and dark, right? Two of the ladies that was on my call um were directors, IT directors that used to work in the company that I worked in. I knew them both. And both of them in the same IT team as directors, and like myself, stole character, never looked like everything was wrong, always had any everything in hand, nothing to worry about, all those kind of things. And when I was going through some of the stuff, um, you know, the tools and strategies that they need to do, one of them sort of was saying, you know, about the whole vulnerability side of it and said, you know, like there's times that this happens and um it can be really frustrating. And every time I told someone interrupts me, and you know, he does the same thing over and over time. Because I said to her, yeah, I was saying to them about you know, reacting to situations. I said, you know, think of the time that you become really stressed out. And she said, well, something that happens on a regular basis is this, and she was talking about and the other one's Hemarina says, 'God, you know, I didn't know that.' She said, Every time I see you, you look really, you know, um, you know, like you you're always okay, that everything is in the right place, that you've not got any problems, you've got everything in hand, and all those kind of things. And she said, There's me sitting there feeling like I'm dying inside because, you know, oh, everything's going to crap and everything's going wrong, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and all that kind of stuff. And she said, Well, in effect, she said, You're actually suffering the same problems as me. And she went, Yeah. The problem is you don't talk about it. And the good thing is, is with that situation now, is that when the other person's in the room with that one person that's just like drives her nuts, the other one can call it out in a structured way before it blows out of you know, proportion. But it just goes to show though that having those vulnerable conversations, then you can then start having that together in your own space. But when you do the group work, it makes people weird. Yeah, there's power in them. I'm not the only one that's experiencing this.

SPEAKER_03 26:47

So true. It's such a big one. It really is such such a big one. It really is. Speaking of tools and strategies, Keely, can you give us some tips and some tools that are, you know, that we can work with to help us, you know, to really empower us?

SPEAKER_01 27:00

Um, well, I mean, the first thing that I always say, you know, with with stress and everything like that, is being able to start recognising when stress takes place. So it's that creating awareness. So during the day, it's just taking a mental note of times where you're perhaps feeling a little bit more stressed than you would do, and maybe put you know, a measurement between sort of not to ten on what that would be. Um, and uh, you know, where and make a note of sort of where are you, what you're doing, who you're with, um whether you're in a place where it's got loads of people, whether it's just on a one-to-one space, you know, all different situations, because every situation you're going to be able to react in a different way. Um, and if you sort of start creating that awareness a bit, with each of those situations, perhaps have a look at them and then start considering, you know, you know, the who you are, what you're doing, and start you can start building those patterns, and when you start building the patterns around them, then you can look at them individually and think, well, how can I manage this in a different way? It's like taking that step back, it's it's like I say to everybody, is like when you're in the situation, is that you've got to learn to stop, breathe, you know, take a step back, you know. And when I say breathe, breathe right, you know, with solar plexus is rather than all this crap that you just keep on regurgitating. And when you take a step back and breathe, and then you know, just do that for a little while. You clear your mind, you become more focused, and when you become more focused, you can think of things and strategies in a much better way to manage it differently. You'll respond, not react. You know, it's those kind of things. But when you get to build a picture of it, and the other thing is is start recognising your indicators for stress, those things like your headaches or your brain bulk or things like arm aches or rashes or gut problems, you know, all of those things that you see in isolation as little things, but all of those little things in isolation become one big thing, and that's when it starts spiraling out of control, and that's when you then start becoming burnt out. Because unfortunately, many of us don't even know that we're on the path to burnout because we don't recognise our key indicators for stress. I'm so busy because we're so busy, and we don't stop, we'll go, go, go.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

There's a lovely quote. Um, I I don't remember exactly it's in between the stimulus and the response, there's a gap, and that's where the present moment is, that's where we can make the changes, that's where the power lies. But we've got to stop. And I love what you said, you know, observe, be aware, just noticing. And and not even having to to know what to do right there and then, but noticing is the first step. That's your your main point, is just to really be aware. But we need to slow down, even you know, sometimes during the day, I say, you know, at two o'clock, check in with yourself, at six o'clock, just check in with yourself, how are you feeling? Ask yourselves, you know, those questions. And then you said, um, powerful, ask yourself, where is this coming from? You know, what what what's what's this on about type of thing? But noticing the indicators then as well, the headaches, the rashes, the gut problems. That's so true. Like that, because your body is always talking to you. Like, but it's just it's so so powerful. Um, yeah, I mean, like we we I think women, you know, this whole thing around multitask and wearing all the hats and being the mammy and then being the businesswoman and what have you, you know. We need to look after ourselves and care for ourselves because if we don't, then we can't show up whole and complete for for ourselves and other people in the world. Because as human beings, we're here to serve other people and help other people. That's that's our role, really. But in order to do that, we've got to look after ourselves first. So this awareness that you're talking about is is is a big big step.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

It is well, I mean, ultimately, you can't drink from an empty cup, and you know, you know, the analogy where you know you're on the plane, if the mask falls down, they say she put it on you first. Because the problem is is that when you don't put it on yourself, everybody else around you is watching you slowly die inside. Yeah. And that's why it's so important because we, you know, I'm as mothers, you know, not everybody, but we do serve uh everybody, you know, we serve our partners, we serve our children, you know, we serve people around us, we are the carers. And I I don't care what anybody says, it is a natural instinct, by and large, for us, because that's our design role we've had in life, you know. Um, and arguably there are things that we can actually change for it, but we are the carer, and you know, we we're the creator, aren't we? Yeah, you know, of children. And I don't think a spiritual creator that's a little bit too much though.

SPEAKER_03 31:58

Keely, we're coming to the end, my god. I could talk to you all day. Can you tell us um just before I ask you the final question? Can you tell us where people can find you and and how people can work with you?

SPEAKER_01 32:10

Yeah, okay then. Well, there's a there's a couple of uh places. Um I'm on uh LinkedIn as Keely Woolley. Um I've also um my website, which um I will also share in the link, is wwwmetamorphsuccess.com and it's meta more without the ear in it for success. So um all linked to my dragonfly, uh of course. Um but I will share um in your link, I'll share also a link to a free uh gift, which is how to take back control of your life. And it's just some tips and guidance tools if people would like to do that, and I'll share a calendar link if people want to just have a chat and find out about each other. And as I always turn around and say, is discover your why, because at the end of the day, without your why, you're just merely existing, in it. And I always love to know why people do what they do. So because I think that was one of the questions I had with you. I think was that why do you do what you do? Which obviously then led to you sharing me your story.

SPEAKER_03 33:11

So yeah, absolutely. And it's our driver, isn't it? It's our driver, it's what gets us up out of bed in the morning. I think it's really important that we have that we all have a why, you know, because we all have a purpose, whether it's big or small. Oh, Keyley, I just love it. I I want to ask you, uh, and I'm I'm going to meet you. We were just just before we start recording, I'm going to meet you um in a couple of weeks. Um, I'm going to see Andy Harrington's event. So you do your speaker training there. That's another side of what you do as well, the speaker trainer. So I can't wait for that, Keely. But just before we go, just to really wrap and sum everything up, can you leave us with one one thought, one one thing to consider, you know, like one gold nugget, just to help people to step off that roller coaster and just to stop and consider who they are and what they want in life. Just one empowering thought or message that you want to leave our listeners with.

SPEAKER_01 34:03

Um well, the th first thing that I would always say, I always say is you know, just be who you are. Don't try to be anybody else. You the only person you're responsible for is yourself, in the sense that you can't change anybody else. So stop trying to rescue everybody else and concentrate on focusing on you and finding self-love and self-compassion and self-care. And you can do that by just stop, slow down and breathe. It's just for three minutes. Just take some time out for yourself.

SPEAKER_03 34:44

Beautiful, beautiful, Katie. God, that touched my heart when you said that. I really did, you know, just just stop, just slow down, yeah, and just just just realize how amazing that we all are, you know. It's it's so beautiful. Katie, thank you so much for spending the time with me here today, chatting with me all about how we can empower each other and be a female leader in the world, whether it's in the workplace or in the home or just in life, you know, just being a leader. Um, it's it's so amazing and it's just so enlightening and um a breath of fresh air just having this conversation. So, Katie, thank you so much. Continue doing the work that you're doing. I love who you are, what you're up to, and uh go and have a wonderful day. We'll speak again soon. Yeah, and uh thank you. It's been a pleasure.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

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